Post by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜ on Mar 11, 2017 17:54:09 GMT -5
Okay, so at present we're looking for seven consecutive days sometime between Saturday 30 September and Saturday 14 October, preferably with travel days on Saturdays or Mondays. (The actual dates will depend upon what is available, and what works for our hosts, Cal and Janice.) We're waiting on Sr. Da'jeena (ahem!...) to tell us whether she can commit to attend, so we know whether we're booking a chalet for 3 or for 4 people--and hopefully we'll know tomorrow morning at chat. If not, we need to know ASAP or the accommodations will start booking up and we may have trouble getting enough consecutive days during that time period. ADO will reimburse Cal for the deposit, and then (if possible) pay the balance directly to the venue once all of our monies have been received. [Cal, we need to know the deadline for making final payment, and whether they will let ADO pay with a check or (preferably) a debit card, in order to finalise all our arrangements, if you could find that out for us.]
As of today, RT flights (with 2 stops) from Roanoke and Philly to Halifax could be had for as a little as $415 USD + tax--which is doable for Brother and I. A lot more than this would be a stretch, so we need to book our flights ASAP before the rates start going up. I expect the same will be true for Sr. Da'jeena, since she would be flying from FL.
So that is where things stand for the present. I am still waiting for feedback on the schedule, and mentoring assignments. If you don't want to mentor, or don't know the subject area to which you've been assigned well enough to teach it, you need to let me know no later than June, so that I have a reasonable time to prepare and (if necessary) change the schedule and readjust the assignments. Also, I am interested in feedback on the number of sessions. Are we content with those proposed? Do we want more, or fewer sessions? etc. etc. We always want people to feel it was worth hosting, and worth making the trip, but that can mean different things to different people. Some people might prefer to work intensively mornings, and until mid-afternoon, and then have late afternoon and evenings to explore the local area. Others might feel ripped off if we're not working all the time. And some of us would probably like to have evenings free for music, tribes stories, getting to know each other better, etc. We need to know all these preferences if we're going to make a schedule that everyone is fairly happy with, so please do share your feedback here!
Also, it would be a great help in working with the landscape and spirits of place if we all did some online research on Nova Scotia before leaving, including the geology, indigenous history (if possible), local sites attributed to ancient peoples, and the history of its European settlers, etc. It may not be possible to find all of this information online (I know it isn't possible for our area), but whatever we can find out will help in our work. Maybe, if all goes well, we can devote a couple of chats to the local landscape and history before the Gathering, so it is fresh in everyone's mind.
Post by Da'jeena ᚛ᚇᚐ ᚓᚓᚅᚐ᚜ on Mar 12, 2017 8:40:26 GMT -5
The daily structure i am in favore of, is working intensively morning and afternoon with evenings reserved for things like singing, music, story telling, crafting, reflecting, Q&A, reading, writing, getting to know one another, etc. Of course allowing for flexibility of the schedule as needs must.
I also think the possibility of a trip during at least one morning/afternoon into the field for local landscape working and exploring would be a good idea as well. We can determine distance/final destination of trip as we nail down the finer details?
Also love the idea of devoting chat time to the history and geography of the area prior to the Gathering.
Food might be the biggest challenge as most of us have to fly in. There is something to be said about driving to a Gathering and being able to bring either prepared food or the fixings for meals. Something for us to discuss in these coming months.
What makes the Gatherings worthwhile for me is learning new things, exploring things we already know to a deeper degree, having an opportunity to hands on practice and teach what we know, being able to work with each other, getting to know our energies as they work together, seeing what we look like, sound like. Strengthening connections. Being community.
As for the date of the next Gathering, IMO the first week in October would be a splendid time. My sweetie's birthday is the 15th of October and it would be nice to be returning in time to celebrate it with her. Plus I could bring her presents from our travels
DAY 5: Breathwork (Review / Practice: Sr. Refthi)--1 hr. Pathwalking: Building a Bender (Review: Brs. Myrddin & Cal)--1 hr. Pathwalking: Tracking in this world & the Otherworld (Srs. Refthi & Da'jeena)--2.5 hrs. Songcraft: Members-Only / Braithion Stories and Grove songs (Sr. Refthi-Tiard)--2 hrs.
DAY 6: Breathwork (Review / Practice: Sr. Morgaine)--1 hr. Sacred Landscape: Find the Sacred Centre (Review / Practice: Sr. Morgaine & Br. Cal)--1.5 hrs. Dreamwork: Leading Doorways & Dream Re-Entry, Immrama & Shared Dreaming (Review / Practice: Br. Myrddin & Sr. Morgaine)--2.5 hrs. Songcraft: Open Group Stories & Songs (Everyone)--2 hrs.
DAY 7: Depart
You will note that this is a much lighter schedule than we've had in previous years. This is because if we're doing breakfast and lunch (2 hrs. total ea.), rather than brunch, we need to allot more time to prepping meals and washing up. Also, based on the needs of the schedule, I would suggest the following rotation for kitchen duty:
Breakfast & Lunch: Srs. Da'jeena & Refthi
Lunch & Supper: Brs. Cal & Myrddin & Sr. Morgaine
Final meal assignments will depend upon the sessions each of us is teaching, and how much clean-up or prep sessions require.
Obviously, this schedule requires all of us to do a fair amount of prep before we arrive at the location, including collaborating with whoever is assigned to sessions with us. Br. Myrddin and I won't be able to cover sessions at the last minute, so please do let us know well in advance (say, 3 mos.) if you won't be able to lead a session. I'll be making some minor adjustments to this, so that sessions flow and build properly, but this gives you a basic idea of what we'll be doing. So now is your chance to pipe up if you don't like it.
Last Edit: Jul 26, 2017 11:59:45 GMT -5 by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜: [amended to correct for the fact that we will not be doing ritual]
Three First Parts for Understanding: an eye to see what is; a heart to feel what is; and a boldness that dares to follow.
Post by Cal ᚛ᚉᚐᚂᚋᚐᚅ᚜ on Mar 20, 2017 10:03:30 GMT -5
I just checked the availability of chalet #7 for Sept. 30, 2017 to the morning of Oct. 7 and it is available for those nights for the posted rate of $1314.00 CDN plus tax. If we are all committed to coming as seems to be the case, I suggest that I reserve it to make sure that we have that blocked off. I can always get my money back up to one week prior to Sept. 30. We may need an extra night depending on how your flights are arranged. This will allow arrival on Saturday and departure on a Sat. or Sun as you choose. If there are only two of you to deal with for an extra day or two on either end, we can work something out so that it would not cost anything. Ideally it would be great to have a few days with you outside of the gathering sessions but that depends on your individual work schedules and preferences so let me know if you would like or are able to spend some extra time here. If it should happen that the condo is not sold by that time then it is all wide open, you can arrive whenever you want and stay till it sells!
Regarding the meals, we hope to assemble components ahead of time so that there is not a huge amount of prep each day although working together in the kitchen can also be a good experience. Breakfast or brunch is up to you, when you are sleeping at the lodge, it would be easy to have some cereal, muffins etc there for a quick snack in the early morning and then we could have a prepared lunch here, or we can do a brunch here sometime midmorning, whatever suits the group best. I think the schedule is fine, without an aspirant there is more time for other things and I suspect the discussions will go late into the night anyway.
Unless I hear otherwise, I will get the lodge booked.
Post by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜ on Mar 21, 2017 17:29:09 GMT -5
Greetings, Brother Cal,
Sounds great--and thank you so much, once again! Please send a copy of your receipt to the ADO for our records, and so you can be properly reimbursed.
Also, thanks to you and Janice for your generous offer for some of us to extend our visits. I was contemplating the fact that it's possible we would all like to do so, and another possibility occurred to me; one which--if our Sisters were agreeable to the idea--would allow all of us to spend some leisure time with you and explore the area. If we could work some evenings, we could free up a couple of days off for visiting and exploring at the end of the trip.
Otherwise, Sr. Da'jeena has already stated a preference for having evenings off, and for paying you a visit (though whether she meant at Gathering is another question entirely)... So that said... Brother and I would love to spend a few extra days getting to know you and Janice better, and exploring the local area, but we don't want to elbow out our Sisters, especially when they seem rather eager for the opportunity.
However, should they be unable to commit to a longer stay by, say, March 30th (Brother Myrddin's birthday, and the date we'll be buying our plane tickets), if your generous offer is still open we'd be delighted to take you up on it.
So, dear Sisters, shall we work nights so we can all enjoy some free time at the end of the week with Cal and Janice, exploring the local area? Or shall it be whoever can make a firm commitment by the 30th to extend their stay?...
In eager anticipation--
PS: I agree with your suggestion, Br. Cal, that we do Brunch instead of two meals, and I had originally suggested it in my schedule. However, at least one other member stated a preference for rising earlier and having all three meals, so in the absence of other comments stating a preference for two meals at the time, this is how I amended the schedule. I do encourage everyone to post with their preferences, however, since the final schedule should reflect the majority's preferences. I also agree that prepping ingredients ahead makes things much easier. Are you planning to host the meals at your home? If so, please let us know how we can make that process easier for you and Janice. PPS: Sr. Da'jeena, I am sorry I haven't replied to your post (12 March, above) directly, but I did read it and noticed you requested a day trip to work on the local Sacred Landscape. Did you have something in mind that you would like to teach a session on? If so, please let me know the details, so we can see what it entails and try to accommodate you.
Post by Cal ᚛ᚉᚐᚂᚋᚐᚅ᚜ on Mar 21, 2017 20:24:34 GMT -5
My plan was to have you use the lodge as a place to sleep and to have meals and the training sessions here on my property. There are many ways we could modify this. The lodge is a very nice location and you may wish to do some sessions there although outdoor privacy will likely be limited. We do intend to do all the cooking here as there is no reason to do otherwise. If some want a very early breakfast, we can provide such at the lodge before you mobilize. Lets see who wants to do what as far as staying, travelling and exploring and we will work around it. My thought was that once the formal sessions are finished, I would convert the room where we can hold our discussions into a bedroom for those who wish to spend some more time, without having to rent the lodge for a longer period of time, which of course, is possible. It is all quite flexible at this point so let me know what your desires are and I will work it out. What sort of sites would you like to see? Once we know what people's plans and preferences are, I will come up with a preliminary menu to check for sensitivities and absolute vetoes and the proceed to refine it. For example, what are the feelings about smoked salmon? venison? lamb? lobster, fish chowder and so on. I know Da'jeena doesn't like curry.
Post by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜ on Mar 23, 2017 2:31:11 GMT -5
Greetings, Br. Cal,
That sounds wonderful, and the menu suggestions sound amazing, as well! Brother and I are thinking maybe three extra days at either end of the trip (whichever is more convenient for our hosts)--and again, assuming there is room for us. We'll be buying our tickets on Brother's birthday, so I am hoping everyone responds by then.
Salmon, venison, lamb, and fish are nearly always appropriate (the only fish I can't eat are crab meat and swordfish). Brother and I have a number of food restrictions which are a real nuisance, mainly because his restrictions are different from mine. Salt, ginger, and grapefruit are no-nos for Brother, since they affect BP and/or interfere with his heart meds. An easy way to accommodate the rest of the restrictions might be to offer a simple veggie alternative something like squash, zucchini, spinach, green beans, a parsnip/turnip mash, or salad with lunches/suppers, since we are both allowed to eat any of those. Then we can simply avoid the things we aren't allowed to have. But if you need or prefer a list, I can provide one.
Before you go too far in your planning, give us an idea of what we'll need to chip in, so if we start pushing the limits of people's budgets you don't get stuck for the remainder. As I think you may recall, we usually send all the grocery and accommodation money to ADO, and then ADO sends Visa or MC gift cards to the host to buy the supplies, and pays the venue directly using the ADO bank card, or by check or money order. (This avoids the problem of the host having to declare the food and accommodation money as income at tax time.) Let us know whether your local shops will accept the gift cards (if they don't, we'll work something out), and whether the venue accepts bank cards or prefers another form of payment. It can take as much as a month or more for mail to get from the US to Canada, due to the many Homeland Security departments who feel obliged to prod and poke about for items of interest, so we'll need to know by mid-July what you think we'll need to send for groceries, so we can mail our payments to ADO by mid-August and get payment to you in time.
Janice must be an amazing woman to be willing to host us on your property for a week or more! I can't wait to meet her. Also, please do assign us all tasks or chores if we are working at your home to help reduce the extra work for you and Janice. The 'intrigue and glamour' of such events wear off quickly after a few evenings of house-cleaning--especially for non-ADO family who are not able to participate in training. Tradition teaches us to leave places better than we found them; caring for the site and our hosts is part of working mindfully.
BTW, this might be a good time to offer Janice some healing, if it seems appropriate once we're there. And practice makes perfect, as they say! If she is interested, we'll make time one evening--or over the extra visiting days. No pressure, just an option to keep in mind.
Gotta run--it's very late and I have to rise early. Thank you once again for posting this!
Post by Cal ᚛ᚉᚐᚂᚋᚐᚅ᚜ on Mar 23, 2017 14:38:55 GMT -5
Please do send a list of food items that you can't eat, its easier if we just don't include those in the prep. We will cover the food purchases, it will be our pleasure to have all of you as guests. The gift card thing is way too complicated, there would be US to Cdn. currency conversions and so on, it would not be a winning proposition, the only winner would be visa. I was thinking that, as far as you (Morgaine and Myrddin) are concerned, it might be nice for you to get here a day or possibly two days early to rest up and familiarize yourselves with the landscape and the denizens thereof, sort of get a feel for the place before we begin the gathering and then at the end, have another couple or three days to relax, have a beer and a barbecue, sort of lower the vibe a bit before you return home. I await the desires of Srs. Refthi and Da'jeena as well, please share your food preferences and dislikes and tell us what you would like to do outside of the gathering itself so that we can begin to arrange side trips, necessary accommodation and so on. We can be very flexible if you can, which may mean tossing some extra beds in unusual places for a few nights. This can work in holiday mode but the lodge will be useful during gathering since we need more space to work and we all need rest to function optimally.
Post by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜ on Mar 24, 2017 22:09:54 GMT -5
Wow, Br. Cal ... Just ... WOW ...
That sounds amazing! ... It is true that being able to get settled and spend some time getting to know the land and its denizens, and asking general permissions ahead of time would be ideal--and chilling out for a couple or three days afterwards sounds luxurious! As it happens, Brother has been piling up the hours of late in what may prove to be a last hurrah. We can't think of a better way to celebrate our emancipation than to visit with you and Janice. The exact arrival and departure days will probably be determined by airfares, so I will let you know this week what we were able to manage. If we arrive early, we could also clear/ward your house and land with you as part of the prep for Gathering (we can focus on finding the sacred centre of your land when we review warding as a group during Gathering, etc.), and maybe do some healing work, if you like -- Or we could be mellow, or a bit of both. We can play that by ear when we get there, and do what feels best in the moment.
I will send you a complete list of our food restrictions by email later tomorrow. Your offer to cover the costs is an incredibly generous one which, I am sure, we all deeply appreciate! It may be tax deductible for you, and if you'd like to claim it just send a copy of your receipts with a written request to Sr. Da'jeena, and we'll provide you with the appropriate nonprofit donation letter. However, should you decide you would like to be reimbursed some other way, let us know what we need send, and once she receives it from each of us, Sr. Da'jeena can mail you (or bring you) a bank cheque, and you can give her the receipts (or copies of the receipts) when she arrives. But again, whichever way it works, Br. Cal ... WOW ... Mind(s) blown!
Post by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜ on Mar 31, 2017 16:49:49 GMT -5
Well, dear Sisters and Brother, we've booked our flights. Two stopovers, but decent prices, and since two of us are flying, that's good news. I recommend booking your flights soon, before prices change. We're arriving at Halifax on the 29th just after midnight, and leaving in the early afternoon on the 9th. Next will be paying for the lodgings--after we do our taxes!
How are you all faring with your preparations?
Looking forward-- M
Three First Parts for Understanding: an eye to see what is; a heart to feel what is; and a boldness that dares to follow.
Post by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜ on Apr 4, 2017 10:52:53 GMT -5
Greetings, Sisters and Brothers,
I thought I would post a brief update on preparations for the Gathering. I realise it's still several months away, but as we've learned in the past, waiting until right beforehand seldom results in being prepared. So, what exactly are we doing? ...
Well, we're starting Cal on Correspondences to give him a bit of a leg-up, both because he is ready to try the exercises in the BoT, and because all of you have studied and worked with Correspondence before, whereas he hasn't. The challenge is to get something into his hands to work with that he doesn't already know about, or doesn't come with a label covered in correspondence information (as many herbal preparations do)--and still have something whose properties we can verify at a distance. As you know, real verification demands three authoritative, outside (i.e. non-Traditional) sources such as academia, science (including archaeology, archaeo or ethno-astronomy, etc.), ancient folklore and custom, etc. People often try to verify the materia magicka using modern pagan herbals. The problem with this is that every path defines and works with Correspondences in their own way, and while each system may be reliable and consistent within its own context, they don't necessarily correspond to ours--which can create more confusion than verification.
Neither Cal nor I were very keen on resorting to other systems of correspondence for verification. It's not an issue for the physical properties, since they can be verified through the physical sciences (e.g. the constituents and actions of specific herbs or minerals, etc.), if one is able to conclusively identify the sample, but outside verification of energetics is harder to come by. Your ideas or suggestions on additional ways to obtain verification without involving multiple systems would be welcome; I know you, my Sisters, have explored other Paths, whereas I have not, and you may also have devised new forms of verification which have eluded me. So if you have, please feel free to share!
Brother and I are eager to brush up on some of these skills which we may have become a bit lazy about. Driving around the countryside naming the energies in the Land by Light Centre may be easy and fun, and keep one attuned to receiving the information, but it isn't very demanding in terms of precision or secondary correspondences, so we're looking forward to this work. We would also love to hear if you are brushing up on things, and how you are going about it. I am trying to incorporate some of this into our lesson work, but I have to do it without crowding out Cycle / Story Lore, otherwise all our work will be for naught. Come August, we will start looking more closely at the Sacred Landscape in Nova Scotia. We are hoping to teach Cal warding, and do a preliminary ward on his home and land before the Gathering starts; then we can test it out and practice it more during the session(s) at Gathering, and be working in a warded space in the meantime.
So, that's what we're up to. Otherwise, I am nearly through the final edit of the BoSL (funny, that, isn't it? a shame I can't use it!), which is going in to the Copyright Office this week (after a brief delay to finish this edit). I think I've updated you on everything else, so I pass the Bell Branch to you!
Post by Refthi-Meliaska ᚛ᚏᚓᚃᚈᚆᚔᚋᚓᚂᚘᚄᚉ on Apr 5, 2017 18:05:20 GMT -5
I am finally getting caught up with the posts. Agree with Sr. Morgaine, AMAZING. and AWESOME.
I do not have any food preference except I don't eat organs or okra. I am happy to help with chores or monies. I do need to finalize with hubby about dates. 8-9 days I can do, don't think can push it more. I also offer doing healing work for your wife and look forward to meeting her.
I will email you separately Sr. Da'Jeena and see what you want to do for Stories and Song. This would be a great time to work on what songs we do want on our ADO CD and what songs we would like to reclaim, and what we might want to create.
Post by Morgaine ᚛ᚋᚑᚏᚌᚐᚔᚅᚓ᚜ on Apr 6, 2017 13:20:09 GMT -5
Sounds great, Sr. Refthi. We're looking forward to it. You and I should also connect to review sessions we're scheduled to lead together.
Also, Br. Cal, please let Janice know that since we'll be coming in a day early I am happy to help you both with any food prep, cleaning, or outdoor chores for the Gathering you might find useful/helpful. (Br. Myrddin is also willing, but we shall see how he fares after the long journey. He may need more rest, and be more help afterwards than beforehand.) All you need do is to tell us what to do, and how you'd like us to do it. Every household is different, and we want to follow your customary procedures to help the household run as smoothly as possible--both during and after the Gathering/visit.
Sr. Da'jeena, you've been awfully quiet here. How are your plans progressing?
We're looking forward eagerly to the preparations, as well as the actual Gathering and visit!
Three First Parts for Understanding: an eye to see what is; a heart to feel what is; and a boldness that dares to follow.